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Natural Gas Takes the Lead

CS News -- What fuel alternatives will convenience store retailers sell at the pump in 13 years? Although panelists differed slightly in their answers, they all came to the consensus that natural gas is likely to have the best future.

During Monday's workshop, entitled What Will You Sell in 2025?, Chad Hollett, director of warehousing and distribution for Kwik Trip Inc., noted that natural gas -- which comprises compressed natural gas (CNG) for consumer vehicles and liquefied natural gas (LNG) for fleets -- simply cannot be ignored as a promising fuel alternative.

Before we decided to offer natural gas at our stores, we looked at the supply of it, he said. Natural gas has a 100-year supply and is produced here in the United States.

Hollett pointed out that natural gas offers a considerable pri

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LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,596 Points:1,203,730 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 10:23:12 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse truvoice1...you might want to check both OK and CO who are coordinating NG fueling stations. Specifically, Love's Country Stores in about 6 states surrounding OK have already put in NG pumps in many of their stations.. This is happening as we speak! They will be fueling Big Rigs initially. Do your homework before commenting!
jrs4125 Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,748 Points:589,795 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 6:38:27 AM Ignore jrs4125 Report Abuse This too shall pass
truvoice1 Champion Author San Diego Posts:1,278 Points:472,615 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 3:55:46 PM Ignore truvoice1 Report Abuse Like the article said, its the chicken or the egg syndrome; someone has to take the risk and either build the stations and pumps and /or build the vehicles that run on CNG. We'll see who takes the 1st step. Here's where T Bone Pickens should pur his money where his mouth is.
Teddy_KGB Rookie Author Atlanta Posts:42 Points:5,150 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 12:25:56 PM Ignore Teddy_KGB Report Abuse Yes, NATURAL GAS!
teenitup Champion Author Houston Posts:1,634 Points:248,115 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 12:06:09 PM Ignore teenitup Report Abuse Right on teafortwo! Pig solar and pig wind are bilking $$ BILLIONS off the taxpayers backs! Their bait and switch tactics are bankrupting America right before our eyes!
schatzila Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:4,939 Points:1,014,670 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:13:24 AM Ignore schatzila Report Abuse Natural gas is the way to go.
Jkent1953 Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:1,981 Points:438,985 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 9:54:12 AM Ignore Jkent1953 Report Abuse I find it fascinating that 40 years ago we only had a 50 year supply of oil and gas and now it is 100 years. I wonder how much we really have. Probably more than we will ever use.
crep1291 Champion Author Ottawa Posts:2,576 Points:480,635 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:22:04 AM Ignore crep1291 Report Abuse "While having CNG at the pumps is great... we need more cars on the market that can burn CNG." There are conversion kits that will let you convert pretty much any gasoline vehicle into a gasoline/CNG one. The CNG tanks will use up some of your trunk space.
FJCruiserCA All-Star Author California Posts:517 Points:325,800 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:17:01 AM Ignore FJCruiserCA Report Abuse k
ss70 Champion Author Detroit Posts:9,645 Points:1,868,150 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:00:54 AM Ignore ss70 Report Abuse Tell us when you see the infra available for cars ... world is using this for so long and US industry try to give a picture that doesnt match the worlds.
zwsn01 All-Star Author Alabama Posts:691 Points:438,400 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 7:27:25 AM Ignore zwsn01 Report Abuse As soon as I get a CNG pump near my house, I am converting.
GingoutMD Champion Author Maryland Posts:3,495 Points:713,305 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 7:25:57 AM Ignore GingoutMD Report Abuse While having CNG at the pumps is great... we need more cars on the market that can burn CNG.
Night Owl Champion Author Toronto Posts:7,545 Points:1,785,625 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 7:03:06 AM Ignore Night Owl Report Abuse Yes, let's use America's and Canada's plentiful supplies of natural gas.
ReddevilNO Champion Author New Orleans Posts:3,360 Points:579,490 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 5:44:28 AM Ignore ReddevilNO Report Abuse Ok.
George0446 Veteran Author Massachusetts Posts:496 Points:230,145 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 4:46:00 AM Ignore George0446 Report Abuse We need a good network of CNG stations. Then with sales going up, others will follow. Starting with the stations on the interstat highway system might be a reasonable place to start.
roadrunnerMO Champion Author Kansas Posts:8,396 Points:1,697,515 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 4:37:23 AM Ignore roadrunnerMO Report Abuse Someone is thinking ahead and planning accordingly. May not be self-service due to safety concerns.
KE4YBZ All-Star Author Knoxville Posts:578 Points:558,060 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 3:02:52 AM Ignore KE4YBZ Report Abuse The ability to make it "self Service" - then refueling safety would be my concern.
RockCity Champion Author Denver Posts:7,905 Points:1,426,135 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 2:07:54 AM Ignore RockCity Report Abuse >Baiting the public with super low prices while more CNG vehicles are marketed and the fuelling stations are getting set up ..... but just wait. The prices will jump with the usual industry gotcha maneuver. How many times must folks be swindled by this same bunch to realize they are not trustworthy? Methinks the corporate people are lucy and the customers are charlie brownn, and we want to kick the football and will fall on our heads every time, and look for someone else to blame, perhaps.
carloco75 Champion Author Richmond Posts:3,711 Points:599,390 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:51:10 AM Ignore carloco75 Report Abuse Wonderful...yet doesn't help me any..!
WR-INC Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:39,486 Points:3,623,360 Joined:Dec 2002	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:51:02 AM Ignore WR-INC Report Abuse Still a long way off.
Quick68 Champion Author Columbus Posts:8,218 Points:1,224,825 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:50:27 AM Ignore Quick68 Report Abuse The price of natural gas is going up around here.
thirstyauto Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:14,705 Points:1,618,670 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:47:43 AM Ignore thirstyauto Report Abuse Like electricity, we need more refueling stations.
Settjec Champion Author Little Rock Posts:1,974 Points:686,770 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:45:37 AM Ignore Settjec Report Abuse hmmmm .... ok
MDTDriver Champion Author California Posts:9,719 Points:2,153,670 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:44:51 AM Ignore MDTDriver Report Abuse I can hardly wait?
q2 Champion Author Alberta Posts:2,024 Points:378,145 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:39:53 AM Ignore q2 Report Abuse It will drive up the price
DavidsChallenge All-Star Author Louisville Posts:635 Points:125,805 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:36:33 AM Ignore DavidsChallenge Report Abuse I would buy one.
abk Champion Author Utah Posts:1,795 Points:654,350 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:33:05 AM Ignore abk Report Abuse More CNG cars please.
Retowered Champion Author Colorado Posts:8,572 Points:2,684,440 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:32:14 AM Ignore Retowered Report Abuse Sooner the better.
Z06KY Champion Author Louisville Posts:5,140 Points:904,740 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:28:30 AM Ignore Z06KY Report Abuse Great because natural gas is the way of the future. Now get people elected that back clean coal and oil drilling off our shores and government land.
SnickersDog Champion Author Denver Posts:3,273 Points:679,035 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:27:17 AM Ignore SnickersDog Report Abuse Bring it on.
Tigercat88 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,192 Points:615,890 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:26:57 AM Ignore Tigercat88 Report Abuse Clean Coal.
pepinoNC Champion Author Raleigh Posts:2,149 Points:657,815 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:26:48 AM Ignore pepinoNC Report Abuse Whats good for the gas companies is good for America.
gasandgoAL Champion Author Alabama Posts:7,146 Points:1,588,690 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:25:06 AM Ignore gasandgoAL Report Abuse clean coal bring it on
unicornIL Veteran Author Chicago Posts:446 Points:384,195 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:23:27 AM Ignore unicornIL Report Abuse and watch those prices go up!
jcurley Champion Author California Posts:7,893 Points:1,774,045 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:12:54 AM Ignore jcurley Report Abuse And we were worried about Pinto's with exploding gas tanks back in the 70's!
RENEGADEGAS Champion Author Missouri Posts:14,906 Points:1,590,250 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:06:41 AM Ignore RENEGADEGAS Report Abuse teafortwo ... Exactly! We are already seeing this happen in the solar and wind energy fields. Its sad how they just keep putting the screws to Americans! We need to get back to things America has plenty of and are very affordable compared to the high costs of green alternatives. Oil and Clean Coal will bring America back around and sustain us for centuries!
texasvet Champion Author Texas Posts:3,823 Points:360,120 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:06:26 AM Ignore texasvet Report Abuse 69Bonne - "Speculators" are already in the NG market. They're called "traders".
pa79th Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:1,777 Points:1,215,125 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:06:24 AM Ignore pa79th Report Abuse Better be sooner that 13 years!
Bruno44 Champion Author Texas Posts:7,070 Points:1,767,220 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:06:08 AM Ignore Bruno44 Report Abuse Count the cost, not and in the future, if there is a future!
furiousfowl Champion Author Riverside Posts:16,850 Points:2,748,205 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:03:38 AM Ignore furiousfowl Report Abuse It has start going back up.
69Bonne Champion Author Gary Posts:1,145 Points:472,175 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:03:06 AM Ignore 69Bonne Report Abuse pretty soon the speculators will jump on that, too. I can see it now, years ahead we have CNG cars and then have to pay more, too, for heating my home.
hpow Rookie Author Vancouver Posts:85 Points:18,850 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:02:34 AM Ignore hpow Report Abuse ok
papa56NC All-Star Author North Carolina Posts:725 Points:142,760 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 12:55:58 AM Ignore papa56NC Report Abuse Alright!
TBONE3 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:8,741 Points:1,975,675 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 12:55:10 AM Ignore TBONE3 Report Abuse Natural Gas is the way to go. Has been used in fleets for quite a few years without any serious problem.
Road-Runner Champion Author Denver Posts:7,046 Points:1,905,165 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 12:53:04 AM Ignore Road-Runner Report Abuse Natural gas canisters in vehicles are bombs just waiting to go off.
afghaned Champion Author Hamilton Posts:11,809 Points:1,284,710 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 12:51:46 AM Ignore afghaned Report Abuse I'd rather see fuel cells.
steve621 Champion Author Wilmington Posts:1,992 Points:2,107,205 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 12:50:35 AM Ignore steve621 Report Abuse ok
danol43 Champion Author Modesto Posts:1,697 Points:587,430 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 12:49:53 AM Ignore danol43 Report Abuse Sooner the better.
streetcars Champion Author Toledo Posts:12,259 Points:2,605,665 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 12:47:04 AM Ignore streetcars Report Abuse Why so long?
hubcapLA Champion Author Louisiana Posts:3,905 Points:940,435 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 12:45:52 AM Ignore hubcapLA Report Abuse Natural conclusion